Tuesday, June 8, 2010

Kasich captures lead on "no new tax" pledge

John Kasich had been trailing Ted Strickland in the polls by 5 or 6 points for several months in the Ohio Governor's race.

Then he signed the Taxpayer Protection Pledge from Americans for Tax Reform, promising to oppose and veto any and all efforts to increase taxes.

Now the latest Rasmussen poll has Kasich leading Strickland by 5 points. The magic of fiscal conservatism works every time it's tried!


  1. No one that I have ever talked to has decided on a place to live based on taxes. When you ask someone why they moved to 'x' city, how many times do you hear 'low taxes'? Hardly ever. Usually you hear 'good schools' and a 'lot to do'. Businesses don't move to cities with low tax rates, they move to cities with creative, intelligent people, high taxes be damned. So make the city you want and the businesses will follow, not vice versa.

  2. Companies factor taxes very highly when deciding where to locate. That's one of the reasons the State of Ohio has been sucking wind since the Taft tax hikes. We dropped halfway down the list, and Honda built their latest plant outside of Ohio.

    Individuals tend not to structure their lives around tax policy, but companies who write 7 figure checks to government, do. The numbers prove it. And when the companies move, individuals follow.

    Make our city friendly to job creators, and they will flock here. The people they bring with them will spend their earnings here, and create the city they want in the process, not vice versa.

  3. Really Ohio's overall tax structure didn't lose this plant. We lost out in this case to a better package offered by Indiana. And yet Honda hasn't pulled its other plants from the state of Ohio in spite of the "onerous" tax policy you allege. One might suggest that these are nothing more than bribes to entice the business, but generally a plant like this has rippling economic effect that is not contained only in its home state. The Greensburg plant is around 60+ miles from Ohio and there are suppliers here in our area who provide goods and services to that facility. I would suspect you would call this a boondoggle under other circumstances.

    The fact is, facilities like this have governments over a barrel. You stand against supposed abuses of power by government officials, but hardly a peep about corporations shirking their responsibility to the communities they do business in. Seems a bit inconsistent to me.

    You continue to insist that Ohio is a high tax state and yet, at it's peak we were ranked just 24th (pretty much in the middle) and as of 2009, we ranked 35th per capita. Of course, no tax is acceptable to you. Somehow magic will pay for what is required for a society to operate.


  4. Todd Portune and David PepperJune 9, 2010 at 10:56 AM

    As soon as we got the chance we moved out of the City of Cincinnati to escape their onerous high taxes. We moved to Anderson and Green Townships, which have no earnings tax unlike Cincinnati and lower school taxes than Cincinnati.

  5. I chose where I lived because of taxes. As you may know, as a great Ohioan, I died a resident of the State of Florida in order to escape Ohio's Estate Tax.

  6. Me too. I'm against higher taxes, except when the opportunity presents itself to give more tax dollars to my good friends Mike Brown and Bob Bedinghaus.

  7. Hey Greg Hartmann imposter. You may want to do a little double checking on your facts. Bengal Bob Bedinghaus wrote large checks to the campaign coffers of.... DAVID PEPPER.

    And of course, Hartman's plan to plug the stadium gap does not give one dollar more to the Bengals then they are already receiving, but hey, why bother to deal in facts when you can just make uninformed and false accusations.

  8. All 3 Commissioners are proposing to raise our taxes to give the Bedinghaus and company hundreds of millions more of OUR tax dollars. We should be rising against it, not acting like Obama Democrats in support of it.

    Local Republicans = we hate higher taxes (except when we raise them).

  9. And people should read Florida's books. Corporations don't attract workers, they move to where the talent is. A tech start up in PA moved to 'tax high' Massachusetts to get talent, not vice versa.

  10. Mega corporations are one thing, but most people in this country are employed by small businesses. Small businesses do in fact move every single day to low tax environments.

    My brother in law is a doctor and he moved out of the City of Cincinnati to Green Township, where there are lower property taxes and NO earnings tax. He took with him the rest of the doctors in his practice, receptionists, nurses, aides, medical records persons, etc. Unless they already lived in the City, Cincinnati lost the taxes from all of their salaries.

    This is of course not unusual, and when these folks leave and take their tax revenues with them the city is left with fewer people to pay for the same infrastructure and services.

    Deny all you want, but taxes do make a difference in where businesses locate. Why do you think municipalities all over themselves to offer tax breaks to relocating businesses.


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