tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post5174577599003943236..comments2023-10-17T05:44:23.781-04:00Comments on COAST - Fighting for the taxpayers, not working against them!: Trolleyites Too Snooty for BusesCOASThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16200778324645740094noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-12896261646918119062009-09-20T12:23:45.895-04:002009-09-20T12:23:45.895-04:00Bris:
It's very common for the public to vote...Bris:<br /><br />It's very common for the public to vote on tax increases. What is odd is to have public votes on things that require no additional public money like the Cincinnati Streetcar. Hamilton County voters had a vote in 2002 for a similar tax hike that would have brought regional light rail, improved bus service, and modern streetcar routes to Cincinnati. In 2009 Cincinnati votersRandy Simeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14272257274373604807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-64265928503217153572009-09-20T12:18:06.596-04:002009-09-20T12:18:06.596-04:00Anon - notice that Phoenix's rail system takes...Anon - notice that Phoenix's rail system takes you from places people already want to go, to places people already want to go.<br /><br />Also, I found this snippet interesting: "Since 2001, when the tax for the new rail line was approved..." You mean people in Phoenix got to vote on this? I thought the progressors said a public vote would be unprecedented. Why did people in Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-81725691392787747662009-09-20T11:02:07.339-04:002009-09-20T11:02:07.339-04:00Article about successful streetcar project in Phoe...<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/us/20rail.html?hpw" rel="nofollow">Article</a> about successful streetcar project in Phoenix.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-55961445231134299122009-09-13T13:48:47.751-04:002009-09-13T13:48:47.751-04:00This is a race issue!
We should all ride on the a...This is a race issue!<br /><br />We should all ride on the all-white, well-to-do, urban professional streetcar. We do not like buses. They are full of poor minorities. We need a new taxpayer-funded toy to move us about our newly gentrified naighborhoods. I don't want to pull my Audi out of the garage to go to a downtown restaurant. I need an all-white trolley!<br /><br />Nevermind that the White YP Progressernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-91394071454171737132009-09-13T02:40:39.741-04:002009-09-13T02:40:39.741-04:00With backs to the wall and nowhere to go, COAST tu...With backs to the wall and nowhere to go, COAST turns it into a race issue. Funny, coming from a predominately white organization where the only minority in the high command of the group goes around calling our police officers and city council "racist."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-10440877301672866052009-09-11T23:25:58.974-04:002009-09-11T23:25:58.974-04:00Randy, you must have missed the recent Enquirer ar...Randy, you must have missed the recent Enquirer article where your pro-streetcar leaders were personally attacking Smitherman and Finney instead of sticking to the issues. Real classy there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-35600709011515933292009-09-11T20:47:57.692-04:002009-09-11T20:47:57.692-04:00The thing that I don't understand is why COAST...The thing that I don't understand is why COAST feels the need to consistently turn their arguments into name-calling exercises. Stick to the fact and avoid the sensationalism.Randy Simeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14272257274373604807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-91802601455764867832009-09-06T20:39:24.946-04:002009-09-06T20:39:24.946-04:00I do condemn racism. I'm just not ready to th...I do condemn racism. I'm just not ready to throw it out there, considering that CincyPAC did endorse African-American candidates for mayor and for the school board.<br /><br />Do I find the fact that all 9 candidates endorsed for council are white troubling? Yes? Overtly racist? Not prepared to go that far, yet.Kevin LeMasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01814834676065394544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-28138436054781120332009-09-06T16:15:52.155-04:002009-09-06T16:15:52.155-04:00Kevin, I just wish that you would condemn racism w...Kevin, I just wish that you would condemn racism where it exists. It doesn't really matter what group you're a member of or whether the racism of a group is better or worse than the Klan's, it should all be condemned. <br /><br />There is no rational reason why CincyPAC refused to endorse Black candidates. There are Black candidates for and against the streetcar, for and against Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-16248932096151009272009-09-06T10:25:56.377-04:002009-09-06T10:25:56.377-04:00Oh my! Wow!
Thanks! =DOh my! Wow!<br /><br />Thanks! =DThatDeborahGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02235918238595525061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-62617234845385633762009-09-05T20:37:56.860-04:002009-09-05T20:37:56.860-04:00Kevin -
Just think of all of the intelligent conv...Kevin - <br />Just think of all of the intelligent conversations you could have with the CincyPAC types on the all-white urban professional streetcar.Flaguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-8187920071218594422009-09-05T20:34:52.093-04:002009-09-05T20:34:52.093-04:00KKK, "Anonymous"? Really? Comparing Ci...KKK, "Anonymous"? Really? Comparing CincyPAC to a group that professes white superiority through intimidation, violence, and death?<br /><br />I can tell that an intelligent conversation is not in my future.Kevin LeMasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01814834676065394544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-44374347561957597912009-09-05T16:11:51.488-04:002009-09-05T16:11:51.488-04:00You're right Kevin. I used to criticize the K...You're right Kevin. I used to criticize the KKK for their racism, but since I'm not a member of that group I better shut my mouth about their attitudes toward minorities. Thanks for helping me see the light.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-69488236735836591702009-09-04T10:06:34.704-04:002009-09-04T10:06:34.704-04:00Anonymous...why is it up to me to condemn CincyPAC...Anonymous...why is it up to me to condemn CincyPAC? I do not serve on its board, nor did I take part in selecting its endorsements.<br /><br />It occurs to me that the person who condemns each and every member of CincyPAC of being a racist bears the responsibility for proving it, not the other way around.Kevin LeMasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01814834676065394544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-48198579749196667002009-09-04T02:53:46.346-04:002009-09-04T02:53:46.346-04:00Unlike COAST which is all well to do white folks w...Unlike COAST which is all well to do white folks with their african american patsy aka Chris Smitherman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-57193144686121310362009-09-03T15:25:29.399-04:002009-09-03T15:25:29.399-04:00The CincyPAC council slate will look much like the...The CincyPAC council slate will look much like the riders on a streetcar - all well-to-do white urbanites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-63320670702731398672009-09-03T12:09:21.289-04:002009-09-03T12:09:21.289-04:00Kevin, what's shameful is people like you who ...Kevin, what's shameful is people like you who refuse to condemn the racism of groups like CincyPAC. Do you agree with their decision to endorse the election of an all-white Council? It seems odd to me that a group which claims to support diversity couldn't find a single minority Council candidate to endorse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-58951285441859499092009-09-03T10:06:12.827-04:002009-09-03T10:06:12.827-04:00I'm pretty sure EVERYBODY will be able to ride...I'm pretty sure EVERYBODY will be able to ride the streetcar. Nice try, though.<br /><br />P.S. "CincyPACer"...that previous post was shameful, and weak.Kevin LeMasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01814834676065394544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-48853848472075958042009-09-02T21:58:53.126-04:002009-09-02T21:58:53.126-04:00Race has always been a big issue in Cincinnati pol...Race has always been a big issue in Cincinnati politics. Race is also a big issue for us at CincyPAC. <br /><br />As you all know, we endorsed an all-white slate for City Council. White people want a streetcar. We want a streetcar. Streetcars are for whites. We determined that an all-white City Council is best for our pro-streetcar interestsCincyPACernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-27726999043137164412009-09-02T15:26:20.059-04:002009-09-02T15:26:20.059-04:00The Portland Streetcar has attracted many who are ...The Portland Streetcar has attracted many who are permanently disabled to relocate to the streetcar neighborhoods due to the streetcar's quick & dignified loading and unloading for those in wheelchairs. Same for retired folks -- but don't take my word for it, the streetcar is listed as an amenity for this new 30-floor retirement tower:<br /><br />http://www.mirabellaretirement.org/Jake Mecklenborghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01317828707889674925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-29607435577853976562009-09-02T15:10:17.074-04:002009-09-02T15:10:17.074-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jake Mecklenborghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01317828707889674925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-40657108774707087082009-09-01T16:34:33.944-04:002009-09-01T16:34:33.944-04:00"would usher in new passengers who until that..."would usher in new passengers who until that point had not been interested in public transportation."<br /><br />People like white upper-class urbanites who refuse to use our current public transit options because.......Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-51075510994593112632009-09-01T15:21:33.228-04:002009-09-01T15:21:33.228-04:00Believe what you want Bris, but no one is saying t...Believe what you want Bris, but no one is saying that. What it comes down to is that the streetcar is an improved transit option that even METRO believes will compliment our existing public transportation system. Some support it some don't. It's an improved option open to all citizens who want to ride it, it has higher capacity and would usher in new passengers who until that point had CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-28210063037515474912009-09-01T14:47:26.041-04:002009-09-01T14:47:26.041-04:00"No one mentioned anything about excluding an..."No one mentioned anything about excluding anyone on the basis of race."<br /><br />Of course nobody would come out and say that publicly. That would be stupid. Just becuase its not being said publicly, however, does not mean the sentiment does not exist. I believe it does. That Deborah Girl believes it does. The NAACP leadership believes it does. Many in the African-American Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-15165836438703616922009-09-01T13:37:07.880-04:002009-09-01T13:37:07.880-04:00Bris, buddy, the only person who even mentioned th...Bris, buddy, the only person who even mentioned the word "racist" on this page was you. Again, here you go with the word twisting. No one accused or labeled anyone's views as being racist, rather it's been you who has been doing that with comments like this:<br /><br />"So not only do the white upper-class urbanites want to exclude African-Americans"<br /><br />No one CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.com