tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post4649673470498459399..comments2023-10-17T05:44:23.781-04:00Comments on COAST - Fighting for the taxpayers, not working against them!: Council Prepares to Gamble $3.5 Million on TrolleyCOASThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16200778324645740094noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-86515128513627728352010-01-17T07:40:56.509-05:002010-01-17T07:40:56.509-05:00It is really interesting that most free market, lo...It is really interesting that most free market, low tax people say cut, cut, cut for anything public. Ask them what leads to growth though and they answer: capital. If you want people to live in your city you can't cut your way to prosperity. People want good schools and good transportation alternatives. These are things that private industry doesn't care about, but will draw people, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-67174737196075864322010-01-15T10:59:38.528-05:002010-01-15T10:59:38.528-05:00I agree, Michael, that some spending needs to be c...I agree, Michael, that some spending needs to be cut. That is one piece of a larger solution. In addition to reducing our outlays, we need to increase revenue. But because all the right-wingers in the region would go absolutely insane if anybody attempts to mutter the 't' word, that's not a politically viable solution. Nor is it entirely necessary, for that matter. As such, the city David Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04189109300592277533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-22152766787426788642010-01-15T10:33:12.694-05:002010-01-15T10:33:12.694-05:00At this stage in the game we, as taxpayers, should...At this stage in the game we, as taxpayers, should all be directing our representatives to cut all spending to the bare bones essentials. We are running deficits and have to take out loans to pay our bills. We are effectively living on credit cards as a city (albeit really low interest rate cards). <br /><br />No new projects should be happening until after we see our tax revenue come back up to Michael Wiglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11925380543238113206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-63481215905545416532010-01-15T01:19:21.004-05:002010-01-15T01:19:21.004-05:00I agree with my man Bris.I agree with my man Bris.UC JuBoisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-53935527477120431942010-01-14T09:31:18.119-05:002010-01-14T09:31:18.119-05:00The UC Economic Development Department is NEVER wr...The UC Economic Development Department is NEVER wrong. Except when they were dead on balls incorrect when they told us that the Stadium Sales Tax increase and subsequent Stadium construction would be a great economic boon to Hamilton County. Pay no attention to the fact that their study was completely false and the stadiums are now bankrupting the County. Their past failures don't help ourOlley loves Trolliesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-80675909093959456452010-01-14T08:24:34.232-05:002010-01-14T08:24:34.232-05:00I agree with COAST. Clearly the Smale Commission ...I agree with COAST. Clearly the Smale Commission study which stated that the city should buy the streetlights was right... but the UC study on the Streetcar is all wrong! I mean, come on! The Smale Commission is obviously much more credible than some "university".Bris Chortzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13195440487956661899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-43862732092827582562010-01-13T14:58:11.057-05:002010-01-13T14:58:11.057-05:00And it seems like the trolley is right on track......And it seems like the trolley is right on track...<br /><br />"Things look good for the Cincinnati Streetcar"<br />http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/blog/2010/01/things_looking_good_for_streetcar.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-28223106076565217832010-01-13T12:21:30.853-05:002010-01-13T12:21:30.853-05:00The Channel 9 report is wrong. Now that Duke owns ...The Channel 9 report is wrong. Now that Duke owns the lights, Cincinati has to <b>pay Duke</b> a half million a year for the use of them. Cincinnati has basically increased their operating costs forever in exchange for a little bit of cash now.<br /><br />In the late 90's Cincinnati rented streetlights from Duke (then Cinergy) like most cities do. The Smale Commission did a comprehensive COASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16200778324645740094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-91961495219922129132010-01-13T10:21:03.008-05:002010-01-13T10:21:03.008-05:00Very interesting article regarding the city's ...Very interesting article regarding the city's sale of the street lighting to Duke. Money is earmarked for streetcar plan (heard that on WVXU this a.m.) and no question Duke stands to gain should an electric street car system operate, but interestingly, the proposed sale saves the city an estimated $500,000 each year over ten years ($5M). That sounds like, if my math is right, we net a gain Joe Mhttp://silverscreenbooks.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-39180261306484489082010-01-12T16:36:50.987-05:002010-01-12T16:36:50.987-05:00So then you are in fact claiming that the Universi...So then you are in fact claiming that the University of Cincinnati's economics center which verified HDR's report is not only inaccurate, but also not trustworthy?<br /><br />You are also then claiming that HDR's report is not trustworthy and assert that they have a conflict of interest that skews their research?<br /><br />These are some pretty bold claims, that I'm not sure you Randy Simeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14272257274373604807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-64733213816659979252010-01-12T16:32:14.198-05:002010-01-12T16:32:14.198-05:00Randy,
Proven?
Proven?
Proven?
Show us.
Where is...Randy,<br /><br />Proven?<br />Proven?<br />Proven?<br />Show us.<br /><br />Where is the scorecard for HDR Decision Economics? How accurate (numerically) have their predictions been? Have they ever done a streetcar feasibility study that recommended against streetcar implementation? Why not? Could it be their inherent conflict as a Design/Build/Maintain/Operate team member makes such a COASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16200778324645740094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-81678202634706212122010-01-12T15:47:23.048-05:002010-01-12T15:47:23.048-05:00The decision to build the Cincinnati Streetcar is ...The decision to build the Cincinnati Streetcar is not based on a hunch or a good feeling, but rather sound economic studies that have been verified by more than one source.<br /><br />The economic benefits have been proven, environmental benefits have been proven, and the transportation benefits have been proven. But why bother with studies conducted by credible firms that have been verified by Randy Simeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14272257274373604807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-40108364600878975862010-01-12T14:26:42.721-05:002010-01-12T14:26:42.721-05:00David,
Who's the gambler? Based on your total ...David,<br />Who's the gambler? Based on your total denial, it would have to be you. You are among those advocating this bet as a good move, aren't you? City leaders act to please constituencies; in this case, you and those like you.<br /><br />Later on, after $3.5 million is wasted designing a trolley that will never be built, and the city sinks further into financial ruin, you might COASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16200778324645740094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-14025649984516662942010-01-12T14:20:53.235-05:002010-01-12T14:20:53.235-05:00"I've been quite clear on where I stand o..."I've been quite clear on where I stand on that."<br /><br />And yet you still only make your demands when someone who is not on the same side of an issue with you comments.Still Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-48518283170505483782010-01-12T14:19:45.221-05:002010-01-12T14:19:45.221-05:00Elimination of the 2nd Street entertainment distri...Elimination of the 2nd Street entertainment district for a Pair of stadiums facing insolvancy:<br />Bengal Jeff Berding, Todd Portune, Roxanne Qualls, the Cincinnati Chamber of Commerce, the Universoty of Cincinnati Economic Development Department<br /><br />Riverfront Transit Center:<br />Roxanne Qualls, Todd Portune<br /><br />NURFC: John Pepper<br /><br />Demo of 5th and Race Tower:<br />Todd Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-72228475157871659712010-01-12T14:00:34.808-05:002010-01-12T14:00:34.808-05:00I've been quite clear on where I stand on that...I've been quite clear on where I stand on that.David Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04189109300592277533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-24649656053243260162010-01-12T13:37:00.614-05:002010-01-12T13:37:00.614-05:00David -
Aren't you going to call out the prio...David - <br />Aren't you going to call out the prior poster for cowardly hiding behind a fake name?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-75222792604614738712010-01-12T13:30:24.282-05:002010-01-12T13:30:24.282-05:00I'm not sure who you mean when you refer to th...I'm not sure who you mean when you refer to the gambler. You list the following "failures" (though we can debate just how poor those choices were, and who is to blame if you'd like): <br />Infamous Cincinnati Subway<br />Riverfront Transit Center<br />Union Terminal (until the County took it over)<br />National Underground Railroad Freedom Center<br />Expansion of the ConventionDavid Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04189109300592277533noreply@blogger.com