tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post241931869185013464..comments2023-10-17T05:44:23.781-04:00Comments on COAST - Fighting for the taxpayers, not working against them!: COAST 2009 Sample BallotCOASThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16200778324645740094noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-41398242788529213342009-10-12T00:46:00.229-04:002009-10-12T00:46:00.229-04:00What about issue 4? It is a sham.What about issue 4? It is a sham.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-6956505278165523512009-10-05T11:37:58.520-04:002009-10-05T11:37:58.520-04:00CAAST, when did we meet? Not saying we haven'...CAAST, when did we meet? Not saying we haven't, I just don't recall or perhaps just didn't know who you were. I was looking forward to that potato salad yesterday, luckily another fine COASTer brought some since you didn't make it to the picnic.Jason Gloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15245055966218274267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-54290423421843099392009-10-02T12:58:39.182-04:002009-10-02T12:58:39.182-04:00Bris, you're flawed logic and reverse racism w...Bris, you're flawed logic and reverse racism would be comical if I didn't think you were being serious. It's a shame you come off on these boards as being a COAST supporter/sympathizer. Even while I disagree with members of COAST, I've had the pleasure of meeting Jason Gloyd and Mark Miller before, both of whom would never stoop to the level you have. You are just ridiculous.<br /CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-71670494160512558922009-10-02T11:03:31.281-04:002009-10-02T11:03:31.281-04:00"The renovation and redevelopment going on in..."The renovation and redevelopment going on in OTR benefits all citizens regardless of their skin color."<br />- Yeah, except for the poor people living in OTR who won't be able to afford $250,000 condos, and will be pushed out of their neighborhoods to make way for well-to-do urban professionals.<br /><br />"So Chris Bortz is a racist just because he pointed out that the Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-83459299367604236782009-10-02T10:27:50.882-04:002009-10-02T10:27:50.882-04:00Ha, Bris, keep digging yourself into a hole there ...Ha, Bris, keep digging yourself into a hole there buddy...<br /><br />"- It's racist of Streetcar Progressors to gentrify OTR."<br /><br />How so? The renovation and redevelopment going on in OTR benefits all citizens regardless of their skin color. Maybe if you actually spent time there you'd see there are people of all skin colors and cultural backgrounds living within the CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-4168841173742135892009-10-02T09:20:00.889-04:002009-10-02T09:20:00.889-04:00CAAST -
"Unwashed masses" is satirical ...CAAST - <br />"Unwashed masses" is satirical language used to point out the inherent racism in the streetcar advocates' argument. <br /><br />- It's racist of Streetcar Progressors to gentrify OTR.<br />- It's racist to prefer choice riders (white urban professionals like Chris Bortz) to those who MUST use mass transit to survive (the underpriviliged and poor, many of whom Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-11922707123074356042009-10-02T06:52:58.577-04:002009-10-02T06:52:58.577-04:00For what it's worth, Quim has the absolute bes...For what it's worth, Quim has the absolute best <a href="http://quimbob.blogspot.com/2009/10/issue-2-proponents-of-issue-2-have.html" rel="nofollow">Issue 2 analysis</a> I've seen so far. <a href="http://quimbob.blogspot.com/2009/09/issue-3-i-dont-gamble.html" rel="nofollow">His take on Issue 3</a> was pretty good too.Mark Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15155390616574310800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-20316987092856734982009-10-01T20:34:35.870-04:002009-10-01T20:34:35.870-04:00Absurd, shallow and literally incredible series of...Absurd, shallow and literally incredible series of endorsements. <br /><br />Name ONE THING Jennifer Miller has done for Mason schools. ONE THING.<br /><br />And as for voting against the public library levy? How can you write THIS line: "The library has shown no willingness whatsoever to reduce its costs or economize its operations", and actually claim it's true? It is a LIE. A emery_rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870661804526939428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-86738188330518393702009-10-01T20:00:30.428-04:002009-10-01T20:00:30.428-04:00Wow - the incredibly scared COAST supporter hiding...Wow - the incredibly scared COAST supporter hiding behind the name "Bris Chortz" would be kind of funny if he wasn't so incredibly racist.<br /><br />It shouldn't surprise anyone that a bunch of suburbanites wrote the charter amendment - they haven't been downtown... seemingly, EVER: They think only white people live & work downtown, in OTR, and Clifton - which would beMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01891803494450719808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-28709799466664509922009-10-01T19:44:41.162-04:002009-10-01T19:44:41.162-04:00Tony, many COAST supporters have have had so many ...Tony, many COAST supporters have have had so many of their exaggerated "facts" refuted time and time again that the only campaign avenue they've been left to turn to has been to somehow try and accuse streetcar advocates of being racist.<br /><br />One of the arguments the streetcar supporters make is that building the streetcar will attract new riders who do not use our current CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-1238803975623210722009-10-01T18:45:30.824-04:002009-10-01T18:45:30.824-04:00How is the streetcar racist?How is the streetcar racist?Tony Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16438584872444209728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-37718133277483315422009-10-01T17:57:04.338-04:002009-10-01T17:57:04.338-04:00Mark, thanks for responding.
Personally, I'm ...Mark, thanks for responding.<br /><br />Personally, I'm in favor of issue 3, but I've always wondered why they didn't just do a statewide allowance of gambling.Ronny Salernohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09028420637930256541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-13820925615059978602009-10-01T17:09:08.752-04:002009-10-01T17:09:08.752-04:00Gordon,
I'll answer that one since I was one o...Gordon,<br />I'll answer that one since I was one of those opposed. I personally don't have any moral objection to gambling, but neither do I think it's a particularly noble way to earn money.<br /><br />If this were about people's freedom to spend their money as they see fit, I would back it, but it's not. This plan is just another scheme to rake in cash so the state can put Mark Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15155390616574310800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-7229787921205974962009-10-01T16:17:48.056-04:002009-10-01T16:17:48.056-04:00COAST, just curious, why couldn't a consensus ...COAST, just curious, why couldn't a consensus be reached on Issue 3? What was the reasoning to oppose it? A lot of your members claim to be conservatives. Were they opposing based on fiscal reasons or moral reasons? Last year when I was covering the McCain rally at Lunken, most of the people I talked to seemed to oppose the 2008 casino initiative based on moral reasons, i.e. they felt Ronny Salernohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09028420637930256541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-34858979941289231612009-10-01T16:13:14.240-04:002009-10-01T16:13:14.240-04:00^Meanwhile, COAST supporters with nowhere else to ...^Meanwhile, COAST supporters with nowhere else to turn in their anti-passenger rail campaign feel they need to label all those against Issue 9 as "white racists." Classy.CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-67759429083977484862009-10-01T16:01:53.362-04:002009-10-01T16:01:53.362-04:00Let it be known to anyone reading this that racist...Let it be known to anyone reading this that racist YP Progressers are trying to paint the opposition to the streetcar as a right-wing kook movement. YP Progressers are making a serious attempt to destroy this great City by bankrupting the City to pay for their hip new all-white trolley.<br /><br />Even liberals agree (http://deblite.blogspot.com/2009/09/chris-bortz-lost-in-translation.html) thatBris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-72483291949786667742009-10-01T14:21:07.613-04:002009-10-01T14:21:07.613-04:00COAST, I'd like to remind you that if you'...COAST, I'd like to remind you that if you're going to lie to people, at least keep your lies straight. Your own lawyer who helped write the charter amendment even said it himself: "any means any," in that Issue 9 DOES IN FACT AFFECT SPENDING, no matter where it comes from.<br /><br />See:<br />http://caast-usa.blogspot.com/2009/09/coast-caught-confused-and-contradicting.html<brCAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-54852242711067857802009-10-01T14:12:19.718-04:002009-10-01T14:12:19.718-04:00Quim,
It's a busy time for candidates and Char...Quim,<br />It's a busy time for candidates and Charlie probably recorded that a week or two ago for later release. Tell his campaign office and I'm sure they'll fix it.<br /><br />Gordon,<br />COAST Board couldn't reach consensus on Issue 3. We had a lot of opposition and a few in favor. But neither position had majority support, so we don't endorse either way.<br /><br />COASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16200778324645740094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-73964874422369544462009-10-01T14:01:25.178-04:002009-10-01T14:01:25.178-04:00Let it be known to anyone reading this that outsid...Let it be known to anyone reading this that outsiders are making serious attempts to destroy the great city of Cincinnati (<a href="http://mvred.com/2009/09/28/vote-no-on-ohio-issue-3" rel="nofollow">e.g.</a>). Ask yourself this question: Why are they trying to intervene and dictate policy in communities that they don't live in?<br /><br /><a href="http://thedeuceblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01891803494450719808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-59740007473337600602009-10-01T13:36:30.073-04:002009-10-01T13:36:30.073-04:00Let it be noted to anyone reading this that the st...Let it be noted to anyone reading this that the streetcar advocates' own plan shows that it will operate at at least a $2 million operating loss each year. That money will have to be pulled from the already strained General Fund where it will be taken away from other things like police and fire. The City cannot afford to add to an continually ballooning $51 million deficit. <br /><br />Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-56744535675776471052009-10-01T13:27:50.348-04:002009-10-01T13:27:50.348-04:00Let it be noted to anyone reading this that Issue ...Let it be noted to anyone reading this that Issue 9 affects more than just the proposed streetcar plan, it would affect all forms of expenditures on any kinds of passenger rail transportation or any kind of improvements to our existing passenger rail stations and infrastructure. It would also affect any form of funding whether it be capital funds, tax dollars, private donations, not matter how CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-9047781306286124612009-10-01T13:24:13.116-04:002009-10-01T13:24:13.116-04:00What about Issue 3, the casino initiative?
Surpri...What about Issue 3, the casino initiative?<br /><br />Surprisingly, I agree with some of the recommendations COAST has made here. Arnold Engel though, has done nothing for the city of Fairfield and has help run that school system even further into the ground each year.Ronny Salernohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09028420637930256541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-6156079529858115832009-10-01T13:23:15.667-04:002009-10-01T13:23:15.667-04:00So what's up with Charlie Winburn making Robo-...So what's up with Charlie Winburn making Robo-Calls containing <a href="http://quimbob.blogspot.com/2009/09/robo-call-from-charlie-winburn-on-93009.html" rel="nofollow">out and out lies</a> ?<br />This doesn't bother you guys ?Quimbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14414025266566849822noreply@blogger.com