tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post1206255234574933016..comments2023-10-17T05:44:23.781-04:00Comments on COAST - Fighting for the taxpayers, not working against them!: Is the Streetcar a Superhero?COASThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16200778324645740094noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-54793071335997879642009-08-24T12:31:09.943-04:002009-08-24T12:31:09.943-04:00The problem is that those potential revenues are j...The problem is that those potential revenues are just that - potential. <br /><br />The concern of many on the anti-streetcar side is that the City will be stuck with it's own version of the County's struggling stadium fund. The County will need to pull $13 million from its already strained general fund to cover that debt next year because revenue growth promises proved illusory.Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-43603196346217499772009-08-24T11:50:38.754-04:002009-08-24T11:50:38.754-04:00Bris, you're welcome. Myself, COAST and yourse...Bris, you're welcome. Myself, COAST and yourself may see differently on issues but good conversation, even if it ends in disagreement is at least more civil than this blog has been in some time. <br /><br />One thing we can agree on though, is that these are certainly not the best economic times. Building the streetcar in this environment would be a risk, but could be a "gam changer"CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-72045787328885817052009-08-24T10:47:33.513-04:002009-08-24T10:47:33.513-04:00By the way, thank you for coming on this blog to h...By the way, thank you for coming on this blog to have a good discussion on the issue. It's appreciated.Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-10504833876475037922009-08-24T10:46:28.052-04:002009-08-24T10:46:28.052-04:00That's a big if CAAST. It seems to me like th...That's a big if CAAST. It seems to me like that's a chance you can afford to take in good economic times. An additional $2 million loss each year in bad economic times, however, could mean the loss of an additional 138 cops each and every year. It's a big gamble, especially since many existing streetcar systems, even successful ones, run at an operating loss and require government Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-77984926992023674132009-08-24T09:36:59.759-04:002009-08-24T09:36:59.759-04:00Bris, while true, the fact still stands that even ...Bris, while true, the fact still stands that even if there was no streetcar talks or plans, these officers would still be laid off today. If/when the streetcar is built, it is uncertain to say what condition the police force budget will be in. Like any start up transit line, the streetcar would most likely operate at an initial loss, but if it pans out to be a success like other similar systems, CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-71665915844334168502009-08-24T09:31:09.835-04:002009-08-24T09:31:09.835-04:00"However, you failed to mention that the capi..."However, you failed to mention that the capital funds that would be used to pay for a streetcar can not be diverted to pay these police officers."<br /><br />CAAST - Thanks for taking the time to read COAST's post. However, you fail to mention in your response that the estimated $2 million plus in streetcar operating losses each year will have to come from the City's general Bris Chortznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-47262076997968456732009-08-24T02:20:49.921-04:002009-08-24T02:20:49.921-04:00Also, just letting you know, the quote you attribu...Also, just letting you know, the quote you attributed to me is actually from the CincyStreetcar blog, as I noted.CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-721799301702528076.post-88594408555903012752009-08-24T02:13:51.772-04:002009-08-24T02:13:51.772-04:00COAST, thanks for taking the time to read my post....COAST, thanks for taking the time to read my post. The recent layoffs of our police force are not only controversial, but unfortunate. However, you failed to mention that the capital funds that would be used to pay for a streetcar can not be diverted to pay these police officers. Even if we weren't talking about a streetcar, these police officers would still be laid off in an effort to cover CAASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985294408896844277noreply@blogger.com